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Coin collecting - the hobby of kings!

[Posted November 1st, 2009]

by Jayme Wium

A numismatist is someone that collects, among other things, coins! Coin collecting has become a very popular hobby over the years. Many people collect coins for different reasons. Some of the reasons why people collect coins are for their potential future value, for their historical value or maybe from a particular country only, some coins that are even still in circulation are collected and some people collect just for the fun of it.
Coin collecting is one of the oldest hobbies, was once practiced only by kings and very wealthy people. That is why coin collecting is nick named as the "king of hobbies" or the "hobby of kings."Some people aim to collect a series or a type set of coins, which entails the collection of coins of each date or mintmark, or the collection of each design and variation.


The thriving coin collecting community, including clubs throughout the world, provide numerous opportunities for collectors to trade tips and ideas. From the ancient Egyptian coins to today’s circulating cents, all coins have a rich and fascinating history. A lot of coin collectors started coin collecting because of the historical significance. Depending on what your collecting goals are, and what your budget is, you’ll want to buy different types of coins. Coin collecting is enthralling, especially when you start accumalating a variety of selected coins. However, the safety of your treaures is very important. It is advisable not to keep your investment coins at home! Get a safety deposit box for them.
Coins that the kids are actively collecting can be kept at home, but keep them stored away in drawers out of sight to visitors, especially if strangers come in like the repairmen etc. Whether you’re a seasoned collector or a novice hobbyist, Alec Kaplan has something for everyone on their list. Browse their website and review their coin display together with your family or friends. You can be assured of a variety of South African and international, high quality coins. So, take a look and see for yourself how you can even experience history by reviewing their collection!

 

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Jayme Wium is an online marketer and copywriter for Alec Kaplan.

South African coins and their remarkable history

[Posted November 1st, 2009]

by Jayme Wium

Many people collect coins by country. They usually start with their own country because it is the easiest way to start their coin collection. Once they into the coin collection, they try other countries. Coins are collected by date, by time, by history of the country, by theme or by shape and colour. Coins from South Africa are popular because of the remarkable history of South Africa.


Ancient coin collecting has the potential to be a profoundly fascinating hobby. People that are interested in coins or interested in history find this exciting. It gives them a glimpse into history of that particular country and a better understanding of the past. There is very interesting, unique, history in the collection of coins from South Africa.
Here is a brief history regarding the coins from South Africa, it is very interesting to know that, on the east coast of Pondoland, in South Africa, both Roman and Egyptian coins dating back 2200 years have been found, as well as Venetian coins of the 1200’s by the first Portugese explorers. In 1652, Jan van Riebeeck founded the settlement at the Cape, the Spanish dollar 8 Real, was the basic coin in use-in 1726, copper doits, silver ducatoons and guilders-in 1797, the cartwheel pennies were introduced-in 1800 declared current at two stuivers-in 1806, the ship guider coins were in circulation-in 1815, in Griqualand-4 denominations of coins were put into circulation ie.


Silver ten, five pence, bronze half penny and farthing-in 1823, own coinage for the Cape Colony was proposed-in 1854, before and after the declaration of independence of the Orange Free State, British coinage was extensively used-in 1892, all denominations equivalent to the British sterling series with Paul Kruger on the reverse was issued and in 1900, the coinage of the South African Republic was adopted as legal tender!
There is a lot more interesting history in the coins from South Africa, if you are an avid history coin collector per country, make South Africa your next choice. You will be fascinated, whilst researching and learning the unique story, each coin entails. For the best South African coins be sure to buy from Alec Kaplan. They specialize in South African coins. Browse their wide selection online and make your purchase. Alec Kaplan will deliver the best, highest of quality South African coins to wherever you are. Go ahead, take a peak-you will be delighted with what they have to offer!

 

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Jayme Wium is an online marketer and copywriter for Alec Kaplan.

 

 

A Guide to Gold

[Posted October 2nd, 2009]

With the soaring prices of gold it is a good time to consider buying or selling your gold jewelry. You need to have some basic knowledge to make smart decisions. Gold jewelry seems like it never goes out of style. This is because it is beautiful and easy for most people to afford and wear.

Pure gold will not tarnish, rust or corrode and is the most malleable of all metals. Pure gold is too soft for jewelry so it is mixed with other metals, including silver, copper, nickel and zinc to give it strength and durability. The color of gold is determined by the type of metal alloys it is mix with and the percentage of each metal alloy.

Most people think all gold is yellow, but the fact is there are many variations of color that gold can be. Colored gold is just as "real" as golden colored gold. The color depends on what the gold is mixed with. Other alloys are mixed with gold to make it strong and to hold up under every day wear and tear that jewelry goes through. Craftsman learned through the ages that mixing gold with copper, silver and platinum would increase its durability. When gold is alloyed with other metals it changes the color of the finished product. An alloy of 75% gold, 16% silver and 9% copper makes yellow gold. White gold is 75% gold, 4% silver, 4% copper and 17% palladium. Other combinations of alloys can make pink, green, peach and even black gold.

The alloys of gold have a lesser value per unit weight than pure gold. The standard in the gold trade is known as karatage which is commonly called karat. Pure gold is known as 24 karat gold and is usually marked with 24K. An alloy that is 50% gold is 12 karat gold and is marked with a 12K. An alloy that is 75% gold is 18 karat gold and is marked with 18K. High karat gold jewelry is softer and more resistant to tarnish; on the other hand, lower karat jewelry is stronger, but less resistant to tarnish.

Gold is highly valued and there is a limited supply and has been used as a medium of exchange or money for centuries. 6000 years ago is when the first transaction was done using pieces of gold and silver. The reason that gold has been used for this purpose for so long is because it has high value, durable, portable and can be divided easily. At one time the United States used a gold standard and maintained a stockpile of gold to back every dollar in circulation. It became too cumbersome and is no longer used by any nation. Gold coins were commonly used in transactions. Gold coins were issued in two types of units. Some were units of currency and some were issued in standard weights.

Today gold coins are no longer in wide use for financial transactions. Gold coins issued in specific weights are popular for people who want to purchase and invest in a small amount of gold. Gold coins are also collected and issued as commemorative coins. These types are a good investment because gold retains its value overtime. These are just some informative basic facts about gold. As you can see gold is a good investment whether it is in fine jewelry or coins.

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Rare silver coins from 11th century discovered in England

[Posted September 28th, 2009]

LONDON - The discovery of four silver coins in Gloucestershire, UK, which date back to 11th century Norman England, has generated considerable excitement among archaeologists.

 

According to a report by BBC News, the coins, found by a metal detector enthusiast, are believed to have been minted in Gloucester in 1073-1076 and represent an unrecorded type of penny.

Archaeologist Kurt Adams said that the coins, which are just 0.8mm thick and about the size of a 10p piece, were incredibility rare.

Reports of the coins are already exciting collectors because of their rarity, according to Adams.

“Coins dating to the age of William I (William the Conqueror) are very rare finds, but these are unique,” Adams said.

“The finder reported them to me and I have taken them in under the 1996 Treasure Act and reported the find to the coroner who will hold a Court of Inquest to prove they are treasure,” he said.

“I’ll then send the coins to the British Museum for examination. If experts there decide they want the coins, they have to be independently valued and the museum would have to find the money,” he added.

“Half of that would go to the landowner and half to the finder,” he further added. (ANI)

Silver and Gold Bullion Coins

[Posted September 28th, 2009]

Silver and Gold Bullion Coins

 

Collecting silver and gold bullion coins can be an investment, an insurance against market inflation as well as a passionate hobby all combined into one. Amassing silver and gold bullion coins are the easiest method for you to start owning gold and silver. Many of the bullion coin series also feature multitudes of designs, created with outstanding craftsmanship, therefore making them very desirable objects to collect.Ever since the first bullion coin is issued in South Africa in 1967, many national mints worldwide have followed suit issuing their own bullion coins series, the most popular being the British Britannia series, the Chinese Gold Panda Series and the American Silver Eagle series.

Most silver and gold bullion coins are never used in daily commerce (some bullion coins like the Krugerrand have no face value!), despite that many of the bullion coins issued today are bestowed with legal tender status in their respective country of issue, therefore making them exportable to most of the countries worldwide without being subjected to import taxes, duty or VAT. This fact makes silver and gold bullion coins a very attractive means for private gold or silver ownership. Investors often put their money in gold and silver bullion coins to balance off the effects of inflation because the value of both metals have since increase more or less consistantly for the past five years. Then again it is notable that since many bullion coin series, especially those that changes designs every year, have very limited mintage, many of them below 100,000 units per year. This results in some bullion coins fetching much higher prices on top of their market gold content due to its rarity and collectible value. Hence investors tend to look for bullion coins that have repetitive design throughout their years of issue, have substantial mintages and does not command a high premium, one such excellent example is the South African Krugerrand coin, when it was first issued, the South African Krugerrand fetch a premium no higher than 5% of its gold content, today the premium can be as less as under 1% on top of their market price of gold.


Here are some tips to start your silver and gold bullion coin collection:

1. Are you an investor or collector? This is the major factor that will influence which coins to buy and which coins to "admire only". Furthermore, caring for rare collectible bullion coins requires more technical expertise and some considerable investment in keeping your collection in pristine condition (but well worth the price).

2. Bullion coins are not fast money earners, they are usually kept for years before even trading or reselling them. As your collection grew, investment in the safekeeping such as a hidden safe in the house or the bank deposit vault would be necessary.

3. For starters, silver bullion coins are a great idea as they come cheaper, thus you can generate an impressive collection in a shorter time (and with less budget!).

4. Focus on collecting a few types of bullion coins as starters, the marketplace can be full of counterfeit and scams, read up about the series of bullion coins you collect, knowing certain facts such as sizes, purity, designs of the coin as well as special issues (e.g. there is no such thing as a silver Krugerrand) can easily help you identify which is a deal and which is a scam.

5. When buying from your local coin dealer, take the time to check your dealer background first, are they reputable in your area? Has this dealer sold similar items before? Do they offer honest advice and friendly service?

6. When buying online, the best method is to start buying from auction first before going to individual shops, as auction website such as ebay have feedback system tracking the past sales of the particular seller, giving good indication on whether the seller provide good service, or whether they have sell similar items in the past and of course whether they provide good quality wares. And the large market place of auction websites with multitude of sellers, can give good comparison of prices of a particular coin, giving you a good grasp on how much price that this particular coin is trading at.

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Types of Gold and Silver Investments

[Posted September 21st, 2009]

 

Buying discount gold coins online

Investing in gold historically, and today, is of the best investment options we have. There are several different types of gold investments, but the most sought out way of investing in gold is through private gold ownership by way of investment-grade gold and silver coins.

You can buy your gold coins from a number of places such as gold coin dealers, brokers of large firms with little or no experience, local coin or pawn shops, and also through online stores. The latter options are not recommended for several reasons. Beware of the pricing structure as many of them mark up their coins 28% to as much as 45%. Search for discount gold coin dealers, until you find an expert who knows what they are talking about with the absolute lowest prices.

The internet is the best place to search for your gold coins in the United States because US gold and silver coins provide the highest profit potential of any gold or silver coins in the marketplace. Don’t just go to your local coin shop who sells inferior coins or is limited, learn about how to maximize your profits through US investment-grade gold and silver coins from discount dealers that sell nationwide. Search keywords online such as discount coin dealers, discount gold coins, discount gold dealers, etc.

Normally, you will find a great variation in the price of different types of gold coins. Bullion coins are reportable assets and investment coins are private and non-reportable. Most importantly, compare the prices between different precious metals firms. Don’t just talk with one firm because they will say anything. Search for superior discount coins (dot com) and you will be rewarded by comparing the different prices for a higher return on your investment. Don’t just talk to one firm, look for discount firms and search for an expert because many of the larger firms not only charge more, but you may get stuck with a broker that has little or no experience versus years of knowledge and expertise in the marketplace.

Only buy your coins from someone you trust. Until you find that expert that leads you in the right direction, educating you on your options, providing the absolute lowest prices, don’t make a move because the right discount dealer could save you 45-75% on investment spreads. In other words, don’t pay more than you have to.

Play it safe and find someone online that you can deal with offline and interact in real time. You should also be able to talk to your discount coin dealer about the growth potential of several different coins. You need an expert that knows how certain coins have performed historically, and how they are expected to perform in the future. This way, you can make the right decision on which coins you would like to purchase.

Focus on getting the best return on your investment. Search for discount coin dealers in order to find the best values of high quality coins ("sight seen" - not sight unseen, which are inferior coins) that will provide the highest profit potential in the shortest amount of time. Ultimately, your investment coins will work harder for you.

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The Mint vs. The Fed

[Posted August 30th, 2009]

Quote of the Day: The government called three accountants to testify. The defense asked each one, "What is the proper way to calculate income for purposes of the Internal Revenue Code if you are paid in a gold coin that has a $50 face value on it?" All three of them responded, "I do not know; I’ll have to research that." — Mike Zigler, reporting on the 2007 case against Robert Kahre that ended in a hung jury.

Subject: How can legal tender be illegal?

Robert Kahre is facing up to 296 years in prison. His crime? He hired workers on mutually-agreed terms, and paid them in gold and silver dollars rather than in Federal Reserve dollars.

First, some background . . .

* The face value of the U.S. Mint’s gold and silver coins are legal tender, meaning they must be accepted in payment of debt

* But a Gold Eagle coin that has "$50" printed on it is legal tender only up to $50, while its gold content is worth about $1,000 in Federal Reserve notes

* No law or IRS regulation requires that receivers of Gold Eagles and other U.S. Mint coins must report the market value of the coins instead of the legal tender value

After extensively researching the issue, Kahre . . .

* hired workers as independent contractors, so he would not pay the payroll tax for their labor

* paid them in gold and silver coins, whose face value - that is, legal tender value - was so low that the workers legally didn’t have to report it as income to the IRS

For instance, if a worker was annually paid in gold coins with a legal tender face value of $2,000, the market value of the gold content in those coins could be $40,000, but only the legal tender face value of $2,000 would theoretically count as taxable income. That face value of $2,000 is low enough to be non-reportable to the IRS. But . . .

Even though the coins Kahre used were legal tender, the Justice Department alleged that Kahre’s system was a fraudulent, tax-evading scam.

We agree with Jacob Hornberger who asserts that the federal government’s prosecution of Kahre is self-contradictory . . .

* if you owe $100 in taxes and pay with gold coins with face values totalling $100, the IRS will accept the payment as $100; it could then sell the coins on the market for twenty times that amount and keep the difference. The government will accept your payment as "legal tender."

* but if YOU receive gold coins from someone else in a private transaction, the IRS says you must report the market value of the coins, not the face value. That is, YOU CANNOT TREAT THE COINS AS LEGAL TENDER.

The government fears that if more people took the law at its word and behaved like Kahre . . .

* people would demand payment in the Mint’s gold and silver coins and have far fewer reportable "dollars" in income, meaning fewer people would pay income taxes

* the market would soon prefer the coins produced by the Treasury Department’s Mint that are regulated by law - not the inflated dollars created by order of the independent Federal Reserve Board

* good money (gold and silver) would drive out the bad (paper Federal Reserve Notes and electronic keyboard strokes), whereas the federal government needs inflated, deficit-driven money to pay for its endless wars, failed welfare schemes, and expanding police state

No wonder the government views Kahre as a threat, and is willing to made a mockery of its own legal tender laws to destroy him!

DownsizeDC.org, however, believes Kahre was on to something. That’s why we endorse the "Honest Money Act," which would repeal the legal tender law that gives the Federal Reserve a monopoly over the money supply. This bill, along with the "Tax-Free Gold Act" and the "Free Competition in Currency Act," is a plank in our End the Inflation Tax Campaign.

Repealing the legal tender law would foster the creation of HONEST free market money, and protect people from the Federal Reserve’s endless onslaught of legalized counterfeiting, which constantly reduces the value of your money.

Tell Congress to pass the bills in our End the Inflation Tax Campaign.

Use your personal comments to mention the hypocrisy involved in the Kahre case. If the feds are going to make it a crime to FOLLOW the legal tender law, then that’s just one more argument for repealing it. You can send your message here.

Thank you for being a DC Downsizer.

James Wilson
Assistant to the President
DownsizeDC.org

 

9 People Who Accidentally Found a Fortune

[Posted August 30th, 2009]

The collector who found $200,000 in coins after cleaning out an abandoned house

Jeff Bidelman, a Johnstown Rare Collectibles owner, was helping a family clean out the house their relative had abandoned over twenty years ago. As he was dragging a bag of old coins downstairs, he noticed a hole in an upstairs wall. When the first floor got torn down, a mounting pile of gold coins was found. In total, Bidelman found at least $8,500 of coins at face value. He estimates the actual value of the coins could be as high as $200,000. Apparently, they had been thrown down the hole Bidelman had noticed earlier. (Link)

Buying Silver

[Posted August 7th, 2009]

How to Buy (Buying) Silver A Comprehensive Guide

I remember when I was 5 or 6 years old. My grandparents would take care of my brother and me for the Summer up in Northern Vermont. During one of our stays my grandparents decided to pack everything up (all of their material posessions) that they didn’t want and try to sell them at a local flea market that was nestled on a nearby mountain. One morning we packed up all their old antique furniture, old electronics, and other collectors items and set off to try to sell everything. We got there early (around 6am), unpacked everything, and the day began. Being young and cute, many of our products quickly sold with me manning the tables and pushing our wares. Around noon, the traffic slowed down and I decided to venture out to the other tables to see what was available. I had some cash – the cash my grandparents promised me for helping them with the sale – and so decided to make some strategic purchases. The first thing I noticed was a great big glass display case of coins at a nearby table. There was a large round silver coin, essentially a giant penny made of silver that I absolutely had my heart set on.

Being a coin collector I immediately asked the vendor “how much for that silver coin?”

“That coin there is $15,” he replied.

“Shit!” I thought in my head I don’t have $15… I only have $5! How am I going to do this. I asked the man if the price was negotiable, if he was willing to take $10. “Sure, for you little man, I’ll sell it for $10.” Okay, I was half-way there. I told him I would be back with the money.

I scoured surrounding tables and eventually found, and bartered down, a nice set of antique dishware for my available $5. I then took the goods back to my table and was able to promptly sell it for $10. I had doubled my money from $5 to $10 in the course of 30 minutes, and I then took my new found riches to vendor next door and purchased the giant silver penny for $15. To this day I still have my silver!

And that is how you buy silver!

Okay, so you aren’t 6 years old. And you don’t have the opportunity to purchase Silver in the mountains of Vermont at a hooky flea market. What are you to do? Thankfully there are a number of resources to quell your desire for silver. Many currently in the market believe that Gold, although it will still rise, possibly even exponentially, does not have the meteoric capacity that silver has. At roughly $13.50 an ounce spot price for silver, it is a much more easily assesible metal and it’s lower denominations may come in handy should the world’s fiat currencies completely lose their value .

Where to Buy Silver

I’m a bit biased, working (and purchasing) on the web for so long I understand the power of the digital market place. In a local community a vendor may deal with dozens of competitors, online there are hundreds if not thousands of retailers competing for a slice of the pie (albeit a larger pie)  and so prices online tend to be a lot less expensive when it comes to certain items. Additionally, the efficiency that computers lend themselves to mean orders can be easily processed, shipped, and distributed with little or no over head. So where do you buy silver?

Online!

For example, we offer the ability to purchase three types of silver:

Silver RoundsSilver Rounds resemble most other coins, but they are not issued by the mint of any country and are therefore not recognized as legal tender. They are privately minted and may have any number of designs. These, like the giant penny I purchased, are solely valued based on their weight and value of the underlying silver. For this reason these are usually the least expensive of the 3 options. You are not paying any kind of premium for the location of the mint, and their ability to be used as legal tender.

American Silver Eagle – Minted from 1988 to the present the design on the obverse of these coins was taken from the classic “Walking Liberty” design by which had originally been used on the half-dollar coin of the United States from 1916 to 1947, while the reverse portrays a heraldic eagle. This is the official silver bullion coin of the United States and has several highly collectible mintings. This is probably one of the most recognizable coins (be it silver of gold) in the world.

Canadian Maple Leaf – Resembling both it’s silver and gold counterparts, the Canadian Silver Maple Leaf program began in 1988. It features the same obverse and reverse as the other Maple Leaf designs, but certain versions have slight variations. These include: proof (1989 only), privy marks, colored maple leaf (has a different design than regular maple leaf) and the holographic enhancement 5 coin set.

Things to Look Out For When Buying Silver

Shipping & Storage – What kind of shipping and/or storage options are offered. Regardless of where you purchase these are key questions. Additionally shipping prices, much like the brokerage and trading transactions for stocks affect your bottomline. The more you pay for shipping, the less your potential gain in value should the silver move up. Keep a keen eye on these factors as well as shipping insurance.

Quality & Age – If you are buying newly minted silver coins (less than 25 years old) or silver bullion you don’t have a lot to worry about, but get reassurance from the company you go with on the quality of the silver being provided. Finally, if the coins are investment/collectors coins, make sure to verify grading before finalizing the purchase.

Beautiful coin creations

[Posted August 2nd, 2009]

Have you ever see coin been used to create a fine arts. This beautiful arts compile by Threndhunter magazine in their website. If you’re coin collector like me, it is an amazing thing what people do with their coin collection. Threndhunter magazine show 12 coins creation by an artist from around the world. This show how money can be used for things other than spending. From tools made of money and money sculptures to coin operated lighting and portable micro safes, there seems to be a lot of ways coins can be used that don’t involve spending. Here is some of the creations that I like.
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Niso Maman coins sculptures

Niso Maman is a renowned Israeli sculptor often referred to as a modern day Rodin. He captures the curves of the human body through sharp, metal materials. It is his use of contrast between form and medium that makes Maman’s work stand out. His torso sculpture made entirely of coins retains a uniquely human feel, and looks as though a real woman lies beneath the sculpture.

“Niso’s sculptures speak of understated motion and grace,” Onnesimo says. “The three dimensional harmony of Niso’s sculptures have resulted in works of astounding emotion which remain unique in the art world.”

If you have an appreciation for fine art, or simply love the human form, Niso Maman is your man.

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Tools made of Money

Instead of stashing her relatively useless pennies in a jar in the closet, Stacey Lee Webber is creating sculptures from them. In this collection, titled “The Craftsmen Series,” Webber has formed her coins into antique looking hammers, saws and screwdrivers. The details are amazing; check out the saw blade, I think it would actually cut wood.

 

Stacey Lee has a Master of Fine Arts degree from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and currently resides in Chicago.

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Wear your investment

Wear your riches on your sleeve. Japan’s largest bullion house showed off a gleaming gown which is covered with hundreds of gold coins. The 8 kilos (18 pounds) dress was created by Tanaka Kikinzoku Jewellery K.K. using 325 Austrian gold coins issued to commemorate the Vienna Philharmonic and is valued at 30 million yen ($275,000). The bullion house does not plan to sell the gown, but it said it would entertain any serious offers. Two men’s jackets also using gold coins, together valued at about 127 million yen, were created.

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Money sculpture

Effectively showcasing the physical beauty of money, these beautiful sculptures created using coins and banknotes are the work of London-based artist Justine Smith. On her personal website, Smith describes her work as an exploration of our relationship with money and our response to it—politically, morally and socially.

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Penny Jewelry

The recession makes people rethink all of their spending, and no matter how pretty jewelry is, our spending on it takes a hit as well. Designers and DIYers alike have all considered this change and started creating penny jewelry. Stacey Lee Webber, Nina Gibson, Kessef, and Lucky Accessories have all created versions of the look, with necklaces, bracelets and even cuff links made from shiny pennies, as spotted by Trend de la Creme. DIYers with some talents with metal can easily recreate the look for less, making it a great recession look. So ravage your change drawer and make some penny jewelry!
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Furniture made of coins

Chair worth $750 sells for $29,000. How does that happen? When you take 1500 half-dollar coins and make 7000 welds to form the money into a curvaceous 50 cent piece of furniture. There is no form supporting the coins. Think Ole Fitty new about this? The chair weigh 58 pounds. The minimal frame and legs are stainless.
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Pennies as Floor Tiles

The Standard Grill in The Standard Hotel New York has a distinct flooring system, as it is covered in coins. The floor is literally tiled in thousands of copper pennies, adding a unique vibe to the place. I don’t think having a floor covered in coins is very hygienic for a restaurant, but it certainly looks cool! I wonder how much it cost?
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I like the Pennies as the floor tiles. I am imagining now how my house will be with Malaysia 1 sen as a tiles. I think the cost would be most cheaper then other kind of tiles in the market nowadays but the only problem is how to clean it? Sorry if I am talking about fine art in my blog for today. I just love to see this creation by other people using money as their medium. I know one Shop in Malaysia create a ring from a coin. Will be sharing a story about that shop later if I am lucky enough to take picture of their creation. So which one of this fine arts do you like the most? Do you have something similar in your collection?